<p>And now what is their manner of life, and what sort of a government have
they? for as the government is, such will be the man.</p>
<p>Clearly, he said.</p>
<p>In the first place, are they not free; and is not the city full of freedom
and frankness—a man may say and do what he likes?</p>
<p>'Tis said so, he replied.</p>
<p>And where freedom is, the individual is clearly able to order for himself
his own life as he pleases?</p>
<p>Clearly.</p>
<p>Then in this kind of State there will be the greatest variety of human
natures?</p>
<p>There will.</p>
<p>This, then, seems likely to be the fairest of States, being like an
embroidered robe which is spangled with every sort of flower. And just as
women and children think a variety of colours to be of all things most
charming, so there are many men to whom this State, which is spangled with
the manners and characters of mankind, will appear to be the fairest of
States.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Yes, my good Sir, and there will be no better in which to look for a
government.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because of the liberty which reigns there—they have a complete
assortment of constitutions; and he who has a mind to establish a State,
as we have been doing, must go to a democracy as he would to a bazaar at
which they sell them, and pick out the one that suits him; then, when he
has made his choice, he may found his State.</p>
<p>He will be sure to have patterns enough.</p>
<p>And there being no necessity, I said, for you to govern in this State,
even if you have the capacity, or to be governed, unless you like, or go
to war when the rest go to war, or to be at peace when others are at
peace, unless you are so disposed—there being no necessity also,
because some law forbids you to hold office or be a dicast, that you
should not hold office or be a dicast, if you have a fancy—is not
this a way of life which for the moment is supremely delightful?</p>
<p>For the moment, yes.</p>
<p>And is not their humanity to the condemned in some cases quite charming?
Have you not observed how, in a democracy, many persons, although they
have been sentenced to death or exile, just stay where they are and walk
about the world—the gentleman parades like a hero, and nobody sees
or cares?</p>
<p>Yes, he replied, many and many a one.</p>
<p>See too, I said, the forgiving spirit of democracy, and the 'don't care'
about trifles, and the disregard which she shows of all the fine
principles which we solemnly laid down at the foundation of the city—as
when we said that, except in the case of some rarely gifted nature, there
never will be a good man who has not from his childhood been used to play
amid things of beauty and make of them a joy and a study—how grandly
does she trample all these fine notions of ours under her feet, never
giving a thought to the pursuits which make a statesman, and promoting to
honour any one who professes to be the people's friend.</p>
<p>Yes, she is of a noble spirit.</p>
<p>These and other kindred characteristics are proper to democracy, which is
a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and
dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike.</p>
<p>We know her well.</p>
<p>Consider now, I said, what manner of man the individual is, or rather
consider, as in the case of the State, how he comes into being.</p>
<p>Very good, he said.</p>
<p>Is not this the way—he is the son of the miserly and oligarchical
father who has trained him in his own habits?</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>And, like his father, he keeps under by force the pleasures which are of
the spending and not of the getting sort, being those which are called
unnecessary?</p>
<p>Obviously.</p>
<p>Would you like, for the sake of clearness, to distinguish which are the
necessary and which are the unnecessary pleasures?</p>
<p>I should.</p>
<p>Are not necessary pleasures those of which we cannot get rid, and of which
the satisfaction is a benefit to us? And they are rightly called so,
because we are framed by nature to desire both what is beneficial and what
is necessary, and cannot help it.</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>We are not wrong therefore in calling them necessary?</p>
<p>We are not.</p>
<p>And the desires of which a man may get rid, if he takes pains from his
youth upwards—of which the presence, moreover, does no good, and in
some cases the reverse of good—shall we not be right in saying that
all these are unnecessary?</p>
<p>Yes, certainly.</p>
<p>Suppose we select an example of either kind, in order that we may have a
general notion of them?</p>
<p>Very good.</p>
<p>Will not the desire of eating, that is, of simple food and condiments, in
so far as they are required for health and strength, be of the necessary
class?</p>
<p>That is what I should suppose.</p>
<p>The pleasure of eating is necessary in two ways; it does us good and it is
essential to the continuance of life?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>But the condiments are only necessary in so far as they are good for
health?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>And the desire which goes beyond this, of more delicate food, or other
luxuries, which might generally be got rid of, if controlled and trained
in youth, and is hurtful to the body, and hurtful to the soul in the
pursuit of wisdom and virtue, may be rightly called unnecessary?</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>May we not say that these desires spend, and that the others make money
because they conduce to production?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>And of the pleasures of love, and all other pleasures, the same holds
good?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And the drone of whom we spoke was he who was surfeited in pleasures and
desires of this sort, and was the slave of the unnecessary desires,
whereas he who was subject to the necessary only was miserly and
oligarchical?</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>Again, let us see how the democratical man grows out of the oligarchical:
the following, as I suspect, is commonly the process.</p>
<p>What is the process?</p>
<p>When a young man who has been brought up as we were just now describing,
in a vulgar and miserly way, has tasted drones' honey and has come to
associate with fierce and crafty natures who are able to provide for him
all sorts of refinements and varieties of pleasure—then, as you may
imagine, the change will begin of the oligarchical principle within him
into the democratical?</p>
<p>Inevitably.</p>
<p>And as in the city like was helping like, and the change was effected by
an alliance from without assisting one division of the citizens, so too
the young man is changed by a class of desires coming from without to
assist the desires within him, that which is akin and alike again helping
that which is akin and alike?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>And if there be any ally which aids the oligarchical principle within him,
whether the influence of a father or of kindred, advising or rebuking him,
then there arises in his soul a faction and an opposite faction, and he
goes to war with himself.</p>
<p>It must be so.</p>
<p>And there are times when the democratical principle gives way to the
oligarchical, and some of his desires die, and others are banished; a
spirit of reverence enters into the young man's soul and order is
restored.</p>
<p>Yes, he said, that sometimes happens.</p>
<p>And then, again, after the old desires have been driven out, fresh ones
spring up, which are akin to them, and because he their father does not
know how to educate them, wax fierce and numerous.</p>
<p>Yes, he said, that is apt to be the way.</p>
<p>They draw him to his old associates, and holding secret intercourse with
them, breed and multiply in him.</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>At length they seize upon the citadel of the young man's soul, which they
perceive to be void of all accomplishments and fair pursuits and true
words, which make their abode in the minds of men who are dear to the
gods, and are their best guardians and sentinels.</p>
<p>None better.</p>
<p>False and boastful conceits and phrases mount upwards and take their
place.</p>
<p>They are certain to do so.</p>
<p>And so the young man returns into the country of the lotus-eaters, and
takes up his dwelling there in the face of all men; and if any help be
sent by his friends to the oligarchical part of him, the aforesaid vain
conceits shut the gate of the king's fastness; and they will neither allow
the embassy itself to enter, nor if private advisers offer the fatherly
counsel of the aged will they listen to them or receive them. There is a
battle and they gain the day, and then modesty, which they call silliness,
is ignominiously thrust into exile by them, and temperance, which they
nickname unmanliness, is trampled in the mire and cast forth; they
persuade men that moderation and orderly expenditure are vulgarity and
meanness, and so, by the help of a rabble of evil appetites, they drive
them beyond the border.</p>
<p>Yes, with a will.</p>
<p>And when they have emptied and swept clean the soul of him who is now in
their power and who is being initiated by them in great mysteries, the
next thing is to bring back to their house insolence and anarchy and waste
and impudence in bright array having garlands on their heads, and a great
company with them, hymning their praises and calling them by sweet names;
insolence they term breeding, and anarchy liberty, and waste magnificence,
and impudence courage. And so the young man passes out of his original
nature, which was trained in the school of necessity, into the freedom and
libertinism of useless and unnecessary pleasures.</p>
<p>Yes, he said, the change in him is visible enough.</p>
<p>After this he lives on, spending his money and labour and time on
unnecessary pleasures quite as much as on necessary ones; but if he be
fortunate, and is not too much disordered in his wits, when years have
elapsed, and the heyday of passion is over—supposing that he then
re-admits into the city some part of the exiled virtues, and does not
wholly give himself up to their successors—in that case he balances
his pleasures and lives in a sort of equilibrium, putting the government
of himself into the hands of the one which comes first and wins the turn;
and when he has had enough of that, then into the hands of another; he
despises none of them but encourages them all equally.</p>
<p>Very true, he said.</p>
<p>Neither does he receive or let pass into the fortress any true word of
advice; if any one says to him that some pleasures are the satisfactions
of good and noble desires, and others of evil desires, and that he ought
to use and honour some and chastise and master the others—whenever
this is repeated to him he shakes his head and says that they are all
alike, and that one is as good as another.</p>
<p>Yes, he said; that is the way with him.</p>
<p>Yes, I said, he lives from day to day indulging the appetite of the hour;
and sometimes he is lapped in drink and strains of the flute; then he
becomes a water-drinker, and tries to get thin; then he takes a turn at
gymnastics; sometimes idling and neglecting everything, then once more
living the life of a philosopher; often he is busy with politics, and
starts to his feet and says and does whatever comes into his head; and, if
he is emulous of any one who is a warrior, off he is in that direction, or
of men of business, once more in that. His life has neither law nor order;
and this distracted existence he terms joy and bliss and freedom; and so
he goes on.</p>
<p>Yes, he replied, he is all liberty and equality.</p>
<p>Yes, I said; his life is motley and manifold and an epitome of the lives
of many;—he answers to the State which we described as fair and
spangled. And many a man and many a woman will take him for their pattern,
and many a constitution and many an example of manners is contained in
him.</p>
<p>Just so.</p>
<p>Let him then be set over against democracy; he may truly be called the
democratic man.</p>
<p>Let that be his place, he said.</p>
<p>Last of all comes the most beautiful of all, man and State alike, tyranny
and the tyrant; these we have now to consider.</p>
<p>Quite true, he said.</p>
<p>Say then, my friend, In what manner does tyranny arise?—that it has
a democratic origin is evident.</p>
<p>Clearly.</p>
<p>And does not tyranny spring from democracy in the same manner as democracy
from oligarchy—I mean, after a sort?</p>
<p>How?</p>
<p>The good which oligarchy proposed to itself and the means by which it was
maintained was excess of wealth—am I not right?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>And the insatiable desire of wealth and the neglect of all other things
for the sake of money-getting was also the ruin of oligarchy?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And democracy has her own good, of which the insatiable desire brings her
to dissolution?</p>
<p>What good?</p>
<p>Freedom, I replied; which, as they tell you in a democracy, is the glory
of the State—and that therefore in a democracy alone will the
freeman of nature deign to dwell.</p>
<p>Yes; the saying is in every body's mouth.</p>
<p>I was going to observe, that the insatiable desire of this and the neglect
of other things introduces the change in democracy, which occasions a
demand for tyranny.</p>
<p>How so?</p>
<p>When a democracy which is thirsting for freedom has evil cup-bearers
presiding over the feast, and has drunk too deeply of the strong wine of
freedom, then, unless her rulers are very amenable and give a plentiful
draught, she calls them to account and punishes them, and says that they
are cursed oligarchs.</p>
<p>Yes, he replied, a very common occurrence.</p>
<p>Yes, I said; and loyal citizens are insultingly termed by her slaves who
hug their chains and men of naught; she would have subjects who are like
rulers, and rulers who are like subjects: these are men after her own
heart, whom she praises and honours both in private and public. Now, in
such a State, can liberty have any limit?</p>
<p>Certainly not.</p>
<p>By degrees the anarchy finds a way into private houses, and ends by
getting among the animals and infecting them.</p>
<p>How do you mean?</p>
<p>I mean that the father grows accustomed to descend to the level of his
sons and to fear them, and the son is on a level with his father, he
having no respect or reverence for either of his parents; and this is his
freedom, and the metic is equal with the citizen and the citizen with the
metic, and the stranger is quite as good as either.</p>
<p>Yes, he said, that is the way.</p>
<p>And these are not the only evils, I said—there are several lesser
ones: In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his
scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young and old
are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old, and is ready
to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend to the young
and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth to be thought morose
and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the young.</p>
<p>Quite true, he said.</p>
<p>The last extreme of popular liberty is when the slave bought with money,
whether male or female, is just as free as his or her purchaser; nor must
I forget to tell of the liberty and equality of the two sexes in relation
to each other.</p>
<p>Why not, as Aeschylus says, utter the word which rises to our lips?</p>
<p>That is what I am doing, I replied; and I must add that no one who does
not know would believe, how much greater is the liberty which the animals
who are under the dominion of man have in a democracy than in any other
State: for truly, the she-dogs, as the proverb says, are as good as their
she-mistresses, and the horses and asses have a way of marching along with
all the rights and dignities of freemen; and they will run at any body who
comes in their way if he does not leave the road clear for them: and all
things are just ready to burst with liberty.</p>
<p>When I take a country walk, he said, I often experience what you describe.
You and I have dreamed the same thing.</p>
<p>And above all, I said, and as the result of all, see how sensitive the
citizens become; they chafe impatiently at the least touch of authority,
and at length, as you know, they cease to care even for the laws, written
or unwritten; they will have no one over them.</p>
<p>Yes, he said, I know it too well.</p>
<p>Such, my friend, I said, is the fair and glorious beginning out of which
springs tyranny.</p>
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